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We are joined in the #TortoiseShack by People Before Profit TD, Paul Murphy. We discuss Paul’s move with ‘Rise’ to PBP and how ‘Rise’ remains a movement of ideas. We also chat about the left, the far left and the rhetoric in recent days. Paul explains how there is a gap for an eco-socialist party on the left and how parties of the left can work together on the big issues like climate action and battling covid. As always, Paul gives us an interesting look at what the future may hold with a left coalition in government without either FF or FG.