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There was disappointment recently when the Government announced 2 Citizens Assemblies, but not the one on Drugs as promised in the PfG. Joining me to discuss this is long-time campaigner for a harm reduction model and Labour TD, Aodhán Ó Ríordáin. He outlines why he became active in the decriminalisation of drug users area, what his time as Minister for Drugs was like and how Snr Civil Servants and Conservative Parties make progress very difficult. We also discuss the idea that Tánaiste Leo Varadkar could become Taoiseach later this year despite being the subject of a criminal investigation and what he made of the No Jobs for Convicts political theatre.